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Date : Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:35:13 EST
Subject : MArch
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Well, I have decided to throw my two sense into the whole scad controversy. I came to scad in 2000 with no art background just some basic college work hoping to be an architect someday. I thought scad was very prestigous, so wanting to fulfill an aspiration of coming to this great college, I applied and was accepted. My argument with scad is the quality of education which I received. I transfered in from a state school so I thought anything would be better and I was partially wrong. The teachers in the architecture program is 50/50 with some great and some horrible and my idea is that if I am paying 20,000 in tuition you better give me the best damn teacher for my money. Lot of teachers pass kids along sucking the money into the college. I would tell everyone out of the goodness of my heart that a SCAD architecture degree is not worth the money. Forget about how pretty Savannah is because you will pay extreme high rent, get ask everyday for "a dolla" and fell smothered with the stitch of Savannah. If anyone does decide to come to Savannah be aware of the crime for too many students are getting robbed. MArch program at scad entices alot of people because it is a 5 year Masters so everyone thinks Wow but don't be fooled it is not worth the money just spend the extra time in school and save your money you would be putting into a mediocre architecture program. For anyone who would like to be hired by the college just find something else because the administration at scad are so horrible you will be utterly miserable in working in this environment.
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Date : Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:01:54 -0500
Subject : SCAD
Phillippe,
I wrote to you some time concerning my story about SCAD. I know you receive
many emails so I will refresh your memory a bit. My roommate and I were held
at gunpoint in our dorm room and later we were threatened by Mrs. Rowan on many
levels, including a threat to be thrown out of school and being followed by
hired surveillance. We later sued the school but lost over 10 years later. This
is a blessing and also a curse: a curse in that they did not have to pay for
what they put me and my friend through and a blessing because I can say anything
I want regarding their establishment. :) My email at the time was
////////////////@yahoo.com. I no longer use this email though, fyi. If you need
help of any kind, please let me know. I also can be reached on aim, username
"////////le".
Sincerely,
Karen
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Date : Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:47:47 -0400
Subject : My time at SCAD
My name is Ni// ///// and I just finished with school today, Monday, November
24, 2003. I have been at SCAD for 7 years and 1 quarter. In the last 3 years,
I have had a horrible time with my schooling. I'd like to share my experiences
with you and anyone else that decides to read this website.
I'm emailing you first to ask about what kinds of info I should include. I've read a lot of these responses, but I was never sure if you edited or asked the author to edit out any names or places. I'd like to name names. There are a few professors I have grievances with.
I'll type up my experiences in the next few days and send them to you. It will be a long letter. I was in the Architecture dept and have now finished with a BFA in Architectural Studies. I remember you from the time you were teaching downstairs at Eichberg.
I'll let you know anything you ask about what has happened to me in my pursuit of a degree. Now that I am done, barring any of the typical(at least for me) things that seems to happen when it comes to classes and what I've fulfilled, I don't care what I say or who I say it about. My degree has been promised me by the graduation dept(we'll see about that), so I am not afraid anymore of speaking out.
Please email me with any rules or guidelines you would like me to follow in typing up my experiences. I look forward to hearing from and sharing my story with you.
Thank you for your time.
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From: "C//// ////////" <//////////////@hotmail.com>
To : <freedomofspeech@scad.info>
Date : Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:23:21
Subject : SCAD
Hi. I am a recent SCAD graduate in Computer Art. Within the past decade I have
attended two junior colleges, two top universities as well as worked for one
of them within their Information technology department. I believe I know how
colleges work and function. Then I was duped by SCAD. I have never experienced
such a facade or phony excuse for a school. From all the murders, stabbings
of SCAD students with no investigations or arrests from the SPD (as well as
the cover-ups by SCAD), to the poor excuses for professors. I have had a few
good teachers at SCAD, but it is few and far between. I am willing to help you
in your plight if you need it. If you wish to hear my story and for others please
let me know. Good luck!
Sincerely,
C//////// ///////////////
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From: "j////////////////n" <s///////////@hotmail.com
To: <freedomofspeech@scad.info>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 00:25:49 -0400
Subject: former student
I found your web site while searching for information about possible lawsuits
against the college. I was student at SCAD for 2.5 years before withdrawing
and graduating from Armstrong Atlantic State University also located in Savannah.
I also have a story of personal experience, which involves the elusive "sound
major."
I worked very diligently at that institution, and I know many other students
work very hard at that college with nothing more than a $50,000+ debt at the
end of the whole ordeal. I would like to see some kind of justice brought to
this institution. We all know about "Presidential Scholarships" and
other freebies that only go to students who deserve them least. Oh yes, I was
once a "sound major" -before the program was approved. I will spare
the details on that for a bit longer.
Has anyone pursued a class action suit or any other type of litigation? I have
little to offer to fund such a fight, but I do have my story and my experience
which would be ample ammunition.
Thank you very much.
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From: "S" <////////@comcast.net>
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:18:19 -0400
Subject: New SCAD Forum
Dear Philippe Houeix,
I am launching a new website in the next week or so it can be found at
http://scad.no-ip.com/ if this site is successful I will purchase a domain name
and find a hosting service. But as a SCAD student any extra money goes to feeding
myself.
I was hoping you would be kind enough to place a link to my site on yours, I am placing a link for your site on mine. And just out of curiosity how much traffic do you get?
Also, my site is not an "Anti-SCAD" site (necessarily), like how yours has been referred to. In actuality I would refer to your site is a wonderful example of our freedom of speech. What my site aims to do is offer my fellow students at SCAD a forum to express their opinions about SCAD teachers. The foundation for my site is the "Teacher Review" when complete all teachers at the college will have their own "page" at this page students can quickly rate that teacher on a scale of 1-4, the question is "Would you recommend this teacher?". The "page" then continues with written reviews of the teacher.
The "Teacher Review" gives students the ability to criticizes a teacher but just as importantly the ability to praise a teacher. With this information students can with more confidence choose a better teacher, directly resulting in choosing a better education. Another result will hopefully be the elimination of poor teachers at SCAD. Basically and hopefully transforming (with time) a partly critical site to a fully positive site of SCAD.
In addition I have setup half a dozen other features (Downloads, Links, Calendar, News, and Classifieds) a photo album is planed when bandwidth no longer becomes a concern.
Please feel free to drop me a line
and visit my site, you will get a much better feel for it there then in this
letter
Respectfully
-M/// G////
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:25:29 -0400
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Hi! I'm a current student at SCAD and I just wanted to write in to give everyone
a different perspective on the issue. I think it's a shame that prospective
students are ripping up their applications just because a few anonymous people
had problems with the school.
Yes, some of the administration is a bit shady. However, not all of the administration is, and I'm sure that you'll find corruption at any school (and we're talking about a private art school here). I have been closely involved with SCAD Residence Life for the past two years, and I can say that many staff members truly care about the students and are willing to fight for our cause.
Yes, the city has a crime problem. However, I am not aware that SCAD is trying
to cover up that information, and I believe the school tries its best to keep
students from being targets. SCAD Campus Safety patrols the city daily, the
school has installed phone poles in the city where Campus Safety can be called
in case of emergency, and the Director of Campus Safety has implemented a Bee
Safe Program that evaluates city apartments for their safety levels and then
publishes the information. I am a junior at the college and have never been
the victim of any city crime, period. In fact, my home city is the same size
as Savannah but has FOUR TIMES as many violent crimes annually, and I have never
been a victim of ANY crime there, either.
My point is that Savannah suffers from crime just like any city, and no school
could possibly keep its students 100 percent safe. My advice to students living
in the Savannah area is:
1. Use common sense. Many SCAD students don't.
2. Don't call attention to the fact that you go to SCAD, such as by wearing
SCAD clothing.
3. Mind your own business. Act like you belong there, and don't insult the locals.
Let's see, what else have people been complaining about? As for high tuition rates, look at any other private art college and see how similar the prices are. As for some professors not being "experienced" enough, I have had professors in the illustration department with resumes five feet long.
I have heard of bad professors at SCAD, but every school has them, and all
the students have to do is NOT sign up for that professor's class. It's that
easy. If a professor can't answer a question, then I ask someone else.
If I can't depend on someone else for my education, then I take responsibility
for my own education. That's why, even though I've had professors that aren't
so great, I still have a 4.0 at SCAD-- and I earned every grade honestly.
What I'm trying to say is that even if the administration is making shady deals, SCAD isn't a bad school by any means. I've sensed a lot of powerful currents running underground, if you know what I mean... but thankfully most of them don't directly affect the students. I don't recommend coming here to teach, and I probably wouldn't stay here for my master's, but there is no reason people should stop applying to SCAD. Just use some sense and be willing to work for your degree, and you'll be just fine.
Erin
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:43:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lingua Franca. Sinister Designs.
Hi,
I don't know if your site is still "active".
I am a former SCAD student that has many complaints about the school. But anyhow
if you want to "re link" the lingua franca article "Sinister
Designs" the article can be found using the Internet Archive.
Hope all is well with your fight. Freedom may come to the students someday
http://web.archive.org/web/19981202110508/linguafranca.com/9607/Savannah.html
Art
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 00:48:51 -0500
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Dear Mr. Houeix,
Last Summer, I received a SCAD brochure and was dazed by what I saw. I never wanted to attend college until then. I decided if I didn't get accepted to SCAD, I wouldn't go to college at all. I applied and got accepted. I took a college visit in early April, my mom and I were astounded by Savannah?s beauty and the amiability of the staff (when I visited Southern Illinois University the head of architecture, Terry Owens, degraded me). I have a cousin who lived in Savannah for a few months. I attended my great-grandma's funeral today and he told me when he lived in Savannah a few kids jumped off a building because they couldn't take it. He also dub SCAD students "crazy." When I got home I decided to do a little research on these "crazy" SCAD students. Google.com lead me to your site. Now, I'm in panic mode. Is it best that I get out of SCAD as soon as I can?
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 06:57 -0700
Subject: Thank You for sparing my career
On the basis of the information contained in your website, and
warnings by colleagues in other colleges, I recently withdrew
my application for the MFA program at SCAD. I had been "awarded"
their highest fellowship... for which I was clearly supposed to
be deeply grateful. However, I have a quarter-century of experience
as a professional illustrator & animator, & am more qualified
to teach than some of this school's faculty. I give quotes to
"awarded" also because a 20% discount on the unjustifiably
high tuition charged there, is ludicrous. I won't allow this school
to market their credentials on the basis of the quality of my
work, to the detriment of my own reputation.
Because my interest in the MFA has only to do with my decision
to become a professor of art, taking that credential from an institution
whose credentials and reputation are so seriously undermined would
only prove damaging, & a waste of money.
SCAD did refund my matriculation & application fees__but did
not return my slides. They left several messages demanding my
sources of information, but did not seem overly surprised at my
decision.
This has left me without a back-up plan for the coming academic
year. I would greatly appreciate any recommendations as to a suitable
college for an MFA in the Southeast. I am now considering the
University of Florida__ proximity to my family is a priority for
me at this time.
For undergrads: Ringling in Sarasota is an outstanding school,
especially for animation & illustration, & costs less
than SCAD.
I would also like to add that the School of Visual Arts is one
of the most prestigious & accomplished art schools anywhere.
The information that they had been run out of Savannah by SCAD
administrators & lawyers, speaks tomes about the standards
& ethics of the latter. I would attend SVA in a heartbeat.
I made several trips to see SCAD, & now realize that much
of its appeal is grounded in the beauty of Savannah itself. Any
artist would be hard put to resist such a visually seductive place.
Wish SVA would give it another chance.
I cannot thank you enough for taking the time & having the
gumption to architect & publish this website. I earnestly
hope that your present teaching positions are to your liking,
& that others who have been damaged by this school are able
to work things out to their satisfaction.
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:49 -0700
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i am a current student at Scad, studying art history and phototgraphy.
I think most of the people who have sent letters to this website
sound like whiny, childish adults. please- when you start comparing
scad to John Grisham's The FIrm and complaining about the weather-
saying the bugs "ruin everything?"- that is when i go
to my job, do my homework and glady hand out the money it takes
for me to be in such a mafia-like, hot humid place. get over it
and move on- you all sound like a bunch of self-absorbed pouters.
and none of you have enough guts to stand by what you are saying
and leave your names. most sincerely- kristen
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:00:57 -0400
Subject: Wow
I recently stumbled across your site, ,and it has blown my mind.
Am I making a mistake paying this outrageous amount for a school
that doesn't seem quite up to par? I am currently a sophmore in
the new Animation program. Yes, every student i spoke with about
the school had something negative to say, yet I still thought
some disatisfaction was normal. I am, however, beginning to worry.
I was aware of the 'run around' that students recieved when taking
ANY issues to the administration, and how the school is completely
unconcerned with pushing students in any direction exept for their
next quarter. I have encountered professors who were, in my opinion,
unqualified. Some, although they were decent artists, were poor
teachers. Most of what i have learned in my classes I taught myself
or learned from other students. (there are a great many exeptions,
though) I am also aware of the fact that scad is often very secrative,
but for obvious reasons, I am only aware of a few issues.
I was exitied to be attending SCAD, as their propoganda campaign
is legendary among students. I became a little wary when the advisor,
John Grogan, who taught the first year seminar class I attended,
was quiting. He hinted about scad doing things that were not in
the students best intrest, but because of the terms of his employment
only told us "Watch your back. SCAD's main purpouse is not
what it seems to be, so be careful, and dont beleive anything
you see."
Would a diploma from scad mean anything? Most students that I've
encountered are dissatisfied with the school, yet seem to be willing
to stick it out for "that piece of paper".
As the first child in my family to attend a higher education establishment,
there is alot riding on my decisions here. Also, if you could
reccomend any establishments that offer anything close to what
scad says they do in 3d animation, i would be greatful.
Great site...Keep it up...I'm spreading the word now, too
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Thank you for writing back,
It is true that all the things I read, saw and heard (except that
actual campus which I have yet to visit) all pointed towards it
being a great
School. Their greatness however seemed to be defined by what teachers
and courses/majors you were taking. A girl that I talked to formerly
from my
School said that it was perfect, and her dad said despite me giving
him the sites address, he never feared for her safety and so on.
Yet another was crying and begging to get out her mom told me,
and she herself said that she was 90% sure about most all I had
told here that
might have happened (from my knowledge and the site). Supposedly
there is even a gang in the area that requires them to kill a
SCAD student to be
initiated into the gang. Also they were said to care more about
selective people of their school, such as when one of them was
about to or had gone
bankrupt they sold a school store so he could come out of bankruptcy.....
this was enough to convince me. Even if not all of this was true,
the
mear mentioning of it is reason enough for suspicion and it would
probably mean that there is something, even if not exactly like
your site
says, that might be going on.
Since my e-mail and other events, I have decided on RIT, or at
least for the first year or whatever it would take to do more
research on other
schools, weather I decided to leave RIT for that school or not.
As far as a link that didnt work, I sent something through what
seemed to
be more of a direct route, maybe to you, than the regular link
that looked like it was only for people telling of their experiences.
Also after
sending a few of these e-mails out i got what seemed to be all
returned to me saying that whatever address they had been sent
to had a problem
with it or wasn't there etc...
all the things I saw on the site were dated before 2003 or so,
so I a was wondering when the last update or something was to
the site. also since I
havent checked my e-mail for a little while I was expecting that
I was writing to a site that was possibly gone.
I guess that is all, but provide all or at least part of these
things ive recently heard about SCAD are true and have not been
changed, then I
guess I owe you and a few others a great thanks.
Finally, I gather that you might not be able to give a great opinion
or anything of most schools if I ask( since you have had problems
with
speaking of schools-SCAD on your site), but I was wondering if
you could tell me, or knew of any possibly useful information
about RIT, or any
other good schools that I may be able to get into after my first
year or so......I might be going into illustration or something
along those lines
because I have a connection with, and have most my talent in simple
pencil and paper sort of drawing ( mostly w/o color).... I am
unsure if this is
something that you would be able to help me on but any input would
be great.
thanks again,
Mike Bassett
P.S. I have gotten a lot of messages on my answering machine from
SCAD after I sent them a e-mail saying that I had hear a few bad
things, I
have since then gotten like 3 separate people with a few phone
numbers each that wanted me to call them. I was figuring before
I decided that id
give them a chance to try to explain themselves, I may still...
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:54:41 -0400
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all these dates seem to be before 2003, has anything changed from
the events that had been repeated about SCAD. I until i found
this site was
all but set on going to SCAD, i have talked to a family from my
area that has a daughter finishing up her first year there. They
had nothing but
good things to say about it except for the issue of money. The
only way i think i would say that their testimonials were untrue
is if a year there
was not enough to know if something was wrong, or if they have
some reason to be keeping problems a secret from some one like
myself, or
anyone. I am not sure that i am solid on either side of good or
bad that has been presented to me, yet. Also all that i have read
from this site
seems sort of movie-esk, it doesnt realy to me sound like something
that would happen in many places, escpecialy in a school. A school
with people
possibly running it like a mob or whatever was said is sort of
strange, but all these statements cant be just passed by now that
ive seen them. I
have to decide on a school by may 1st, i was looking at SCAD,
RIT, Alfred, and CIA for schools.
i tried to scend something more directly through another e-mail
link somewere on thsi site but it was sent back to me with some
error, so i
hope i get a response from this, unless these conditions have
been changed from what this site says. Maybe even then i would
still like to
know. I am not sure name would have any relevance to be included
or not, do what u wish, I only hope for a response.
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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 05:09:37 +0800
Subject: Your site about SCAD
Hi,
I found your site through a link posted to an educational discussion board. Interesting...but please let me comment that something about your story does not seem complete.
If the "fake" degree was necessary to keep your job, and there was no official way for SCAD to waive the requirement...why become so upset that they were willing to push through the credential without requiring you to do needless work? In this view, they were doing you a favor! Why care if you did the classwork or not, since you were already qualified by past education and experience?
I think that your case against SCAD would be bolstered if this contradiction were explained on your site more clearly. Was it more likely that unstated interpersonal factors led you to dislike SCAD, which were then expressed through the degree issue? If that was the case, why not quit?
To American eyes, your site gives the impression of a foreigner having been treated rather leniently and nicely -- then turning around to bite the hand that fed him!
But I don't wish to raise an unfair criticism. If there was something substantively wrong about SCAD -- something substantively wrong within the rules of American culture, something that would not depend upon a French person's sense of (French) ethics to seem wrong -- why not elaborate on that more clearly in your site? This could be lack of support for teaching duties or research, poor student discipline, poorly-maintained facilities, etc., that other Americans would find wrong -- and that would not be connected to the degree issue, which really does look like it was meant to be a favor to you.
Granted, once you had forced the issue with the accreditation officials, they had no choice but to reply negatively against SCAD. And SCAD likely had no choice but to defend itself, tooth and nail, in ways that probably you found to be unpleasant. That is what happens when people feel threatened and backed into corners, especially by a foreigner!
But the "fake" degree is actually not unusual in this country, in cases such as yours appears to be -- while it is not considered to be a blazing beacon of academic light, under the circumstances you presented, it is not considered to be all that bad, either. It was definitely out of line to question it, in the absence of other serious problems experienced by you, directly, that were not connected to SCAD's effort to help you keep a job and a visa!
And to be sure, I'm just a random person who saw your site and wanted to comment, so don't attach much importance to this letter. (No, I am not secretly associated with SCAD, and had not heard of it until I saw your site. But I am anticipating a typical French reaction to my opinions...hmm...I thought the French had a long tradition of bending rules in exigent circumstances? :-)
I guess that your site pushed one of my "annoyance
buttons" -- I've known a number of people from Europe who
have come to the States for career reasons -- and of all of them,
the French seem to have the most difficulty accepting that French
culture, ethics, norms, etc. are required to be left in France,
completely, for the duration of one's stay in this country. I've
seen it lead to some very unnecessary problems in French-American
interactions...the USA is not a French colony! In our country,
our way of life wins! French rules do not apply! :-)
But that's irrelevant. Best of luck for your site, and don't
let the SCAD problem or the current Iraq issues turn you anti-American.
-- SK
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:24:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Masters accredidation
OK, I admit I am bewildered by this site. I am researching SCAD
as a potential candidate for my Master's of Architecture. Now,
a M.Arch is NAAB accredited, not SACS accredited, which, obviously
has their own criteria for deeming a curriculum viable for a Masters
'stamp'. So, while searching the breadth of this site I have found
no evidence of anyone having reservations about the architectural
education at SCAD. Which leads me to my lodaed question.....is
SCAD's educators rife with infection throughout? I mean, come
on! Everyone has stories about thier college days and could find
a way to label something 'evil'. Hell, my school had teachers
showing so much attention to a select few that none of the rest
of us had any real face time for crits. Does that mean the program
is corrupt? No. People (educators) naturally tend to be drawn
to a certain personality/intellect/ability. That's life and moreover,
SCAD is a small town, private, non-profit, liberal art school.
When all those attributes are stirred into one pot, you get eccentricity
and deviance. Hell, that IS art, so in a way they are practicing
what they preach or preaching what they practice.
Basically, I just wanted to ask the question about the M.Arch
program and if anyone knows anything about it that would only
be spoken behind closed doors?
Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:18:47 -0800
Subject: Depressed student...
Dear Mr. Houiex,
I just sat down to my computer to write my letter of intent to
SCAD for transfering when I stumbled upon your site. I did a google
search for SCAD and interior design hoping to find praise for
the program to quote in my letter. I cannot begin to tell you
the ache I feel after reviewing most of your site. Since my senior
year of high school, SCAD has been my "dream." It seemed
to fulfill everything I wanted for the future: large school, several
areas of study, excellent facilites, athletics, beautiful historic
town, perfect climate.... So I dragged my whole family down to
visit.....and I fell in love. It felt right, and I was so flattered
by the admissions people as they reviewed by artwork and basically
told me "youre-in." But money was a big issue....with
self employed parents and three other siblings it just wasn't
affordable.
So I found myself here, in a grey, cold, and unstimulating town
in Illinois. My mom and Dad made my school decision for me, primarily
based on financial issues. And in my two years of college here,
I've been bitter...like my dream was taken away and I did'nt even
get the chance to try and chase it. Here I am at a small school,
taking art classes in an art program that offers fewer courses
and much worse facilities than my high school! I'm not happy here,
I want to persue interior design and it isn't offered here. So
several arguments and pleadings later, I got my parents to a breaking
point.... "go where you will be happy," they said. "We
will give you the finiancial support that we can, but you'll have
to pick up the rest." Which meant I was going to get loans,
other aid, and work my a$$ off to go to SCAD, throwing away a
college degree here that would cost me less in four years than
half of one at Savannah.... until now.
No twenty year-old wants to admit that their parents are right,
but my mom always said she felt like there was something fishy
about SCAD. I might be too proud to tell her about this website....and
shoot down what I worked so hard and adamantly for, but Im interested
in any advice you can give for an alternative. Can you recommend
any schools for me (with strong Interior Design programs)? Ideally,
my parents would like me to be in the University or College settting
but I'm surely open to art schools. A warm climate would be nice.
I'm tired of these bleak Illinois winters. But, I will go anywhere!
Your assistance in helping my dreams come alive again are more
than appreciated. And thanks for opening my eyes to what is hard
for outsiders to see.
Sincerely,
Natalie
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Well it seems you finally got your site up and running again!
Congratulations! You're lucky the college hasn't sued you for
slander. I realize you had a bad experience at SCAD which I am
not one to take judgement on the vadality of your arguement. However,
don't you think there may be better, healthier ways to spend your
time instead of sitting at a computer night and day building a
disgruntled web site? I think it is dispicable the way you prey
on the insecruities of young college students to fuel your anti-SCAD
fire. Most of the stories on the site I feel have no significance
in proving a "corrupt establishment" because they are
insidences that could happen at any college. I am about to start
my third year at SCAD and i have had a wonderful experience filled
with a wonderful staff and faculty that would go out of their
way to do anything for me.
As for the tuition at SCAD.....all I have to say is it's a private
school. What exactly were you expecting? If you went to Duke or
any other respected private school in the nation you could expect
to pay the same amount if not more. And maybe you should take
a closer look into everything the school offers. Let's taking
living on campus for example....not to mention the rooms that
all have their own bathroom which is a rarity among college dorms,
at the beginning of every school year there are buses that take
students out to Wal Mart where students who dont have cars can
get the staples they need. At any other school you would be on
your own. And what about events? SCAD sponsers countless art events
in the city to give their students a chance to get thier work
seen by the public.
I think the only problem SCAD has is that it is prone to sensitive,
pre-madonna artist who think they are the greatest thing since
sliced bread and can't except the rejection of being told their
not. I think you are completely right when you say "everything
is different when you look at it from another point of view".
Maybe you should look at things from another point of view......maybe
it is just YOU!
Emily, proud SCAD student
and one more thing.....for those of you that complain and then wont leave your name? If you hate it so much...why dont you just quit? I can't respect anything someone says if they are not willing to own up to it. Grow some balls!
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:15:24 -0500
Subject: prospective student
I stumbled across this website while researching design schools.
I have piles of school catologs seperated according to their appeal
on my bedroom floor including one from SCAD that has been in the
#1 pile. I am now beginning to wonder what I would be getting
into if was to choose this school. Especially disconcerting are
the reports of faulty campus security (as a petite girl, this
is important to me) and unqualified teachers. There is corruption
and politics in any environment with a hierarchy, but there is
no excuse for teachers who are not masters of their subject and
certainly no room for unreported attacks. I do not think I will
be considering SCAD any longer . (you need to have a place for
letters from perspective students...to demontrate the effectiveness
of the site)
mailto:freedomofspeech@mail.scad.info
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From: "s/////////@/////////.net"
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:14:33 -0500
M. Houeix --
I'm in the middle of my sophomore year at SCAD, and I am leaving this sorry institution after spring quarter ends. I can't believe I've stayed this long. For a purported college of the arts, SCAD exercises unbelievable control over its students. After reading about the 1991-94 student revolt,as it were, I was floored -- it's so clear to me now why we are such amussled body. We can't post anything outside our rooms without SCAD approval, the District is a total mockery of the student press -- never offering any dissident thought whatsoever, and the powers that be have their hands on the plug of our new [web] radio station, which I'm sure they'd pull if somehow it were used as a public forum.
The administration is scared of its students, as well it should be considering the lies they tell us and the lengths they go to keep us marginalized.
They tell us don't bring a car, this is a walking city. Until one moves here and realizes the ridiculous sprawl and shoddy to nonexistent public transportation.
They tell us this city is perfectly safe, until kids get mugged at gunpoint walking back from classes at Pepe -- and then are told by the police to buy a car so it won't happen again.
SCAD is most definitely a racket. And Savannah is the perfect place for it. It has the reputation of beauty and heritage propogated in films, but such rampant poverty and crime that property value is dirt cheap compared to any other city. So SCAD rides off the world's misconception of Savannah as a paradise and a perfect haven for artists, charges absurd amounts of money ($28k for tuition, room and board), and makes an enormous profit due to the fact that it sits on dirt cheap property. Knowing that, why would they want to spend money deterring crime or helping to clean up the city's impoverished masses? They're the ones who make it all possible!
Ughh. I once joked that Paula Wallace must be at the head of an enormous crime syndicate and was responsible for all the crime and drug distribution in Savannah. That kept home owners terrorized and land value down, with supplemental income selling drugs to boot. I mean, someone who runs a shoddy institution for the arts that accepts ANYONE who can pay without even glancing at their portfolios can't have that many scruples, now can they?
BTW -- I tried to send this from my SCAD email account. I guess you're blocked on our email too...
Regards,
SD
(Please redact my name, I'm not out of here yet! Also, if you
could add "////////@////.net" to your mailing list,
that'd be great!)
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:40:25 -0500
hello Philippe ,
i am a freshman international student and i recently discovered
your site.it's good to learn all these things..what to be aware
of.
i've talked about your lawsuit with other students here and
i just wanted to say something.
1. i dont see why i or anyone else here spend 18grand a year..for
many classes i can learn back home for 2 grand a year.
2. i dont understand why there arent no full scholarships, 30grand
is only 30%.. that's quite low.(not to mention forced dorms to
get 100% of it)
3. i dont understand why there isnt a "campus" and why
they build so far off(to save money on location) instead of the
big parking lot and deserted factory between exlibris and the
dorms.
but for all this.. many many international students including
my self.. shifted their whole life savings and plans to come here
not just to get an art degree...but to get a good chance for working
later on all over the world.
if the school looses their accreditation it means none of the graduates or going students will ever be able to use the degree to get hired or to satisfy immigration.. we will owe 80~ grand without a possibility to work in a good job to pay it back.this will basically destroy almost every international student's life that goes or went to scad that needs a visa.
now i am not saying you are not just, there is nothing i hate
more than liars and hypocrisy..i have had many probs with the
school my self specially during admission. but if u go after the
accreditation..u will result in the destruction of thousands of
dreams and lives. sounds drastic..but it is.
i know if the school is wrong they should pay for it.but think
of what that will result, consider that before you go on. i'm
a very caring person..i would never try to get an organization
to pay for their mistakes while having so many innocent people
suffer because of that. even though it would kill me to let them
get away with it.
i wouldnt be able to live with my self. i plead with you not
to go this far just for our sake. our future. this email is aimed
at you specifically, you can put it on your
site if u wish, just dont use my name or give my email please.
you can reply to me if u wish.
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I am a grad student in going for my M.F.A. and in the short time I have been here, I kept hearing rumors about this site and weird stories surrounding this school.
Finally I found your site today and looked it up in the photo lab (Bergen Hall?) while I scanned negatives. I was wondering why I kept landing on an official site that did not mention anything I was hearing about, and now I understand.
I am not sure what to think, honestly I'm really disappointed if this is all true. I'm paying out the ass for this school that was the only one I wanted to attend and to find all this out is just disgusting.
I'm here for an education and now I feel tainted by the knowledge that it appears that there are many disgruntled SCAD faculty, ex-faculty and students, families etc. Something is wrong.
I bought a house here too. I do not want to pack up again and move to another school. Is there any way to get a good education here?
I was so excited about school and now I feel really let down.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:38:15 -0500
Subject: Student
I am a student at scad, and I am bound here untill I can get
my BFA, for whatever its worth. I agree that all of this corruption
is going on in this institution. A friend of mine wsa shot 4 times
in the back, 3 blocks from my house. When you move out of the
dorms here its a war zone. I know many people that carry guns
for their own protection, I never even imagined some of these
people with weapons. When I moved here I didn't think I would
be around that much violence.
The bottom line is, the reason alot of us are here is because
we are talneted and want to show the world what were capable of.
Degrees may just be tossed around, but it really takes talent,
creativity, and motivation to do something with it.
On that note, I am a part of a group of artists, devoted to creating
a name for ourselves without help from this institution. We plan
on holding a massive exhibition toward the end of April. We will
keep the art community posted. 1/29/03
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Subject: Information about SCAD
I am giving you this information because I am very close to a person who became ill with cancer after working for many years in SCAD's Poetter Hall.
Poetter Hall is SCAD's flagship building, and for several years this building had a paint-thinner like horrible smell in the air. This toxic smell eventually made people ill. Many students and faculty became ill but the problem and illness were hushed by the SCAD admin. They are known for secrecy. Some people were fired. Some were paid to not speak about the incidents. Others were given very high raises to keep shut. In 2001, OSHA eventually made SCAD change all of the air ducts in the bldg but it was too late for the many who had permanent health problems.
You may know that four prominent people died and seven received
permanent illnesses who worked or taught in Poetter Hall. Even
Mr. Paul Poetter, the
presidents father who worked in the bldg many years also died
of cancer last yr. A chair person, who also worked in that building
died from cancer last year. The number of people that worked or
attended classes/studied in that building and became ill with
various diseases is statistically far above the national average
publicized by the CDC and other agencies. Former students, and
teachers of SCAD from this bldg, should also be checked for permanent
thyroid/organ problems. Its sad but due to this and many other
problems,There are MANY SCAD haters out there around the country,
even inAtlanta and especially New York City.
There is an investigative reporter from an Atlanta newspaper
who has been compiling data about this incident, and will be writing
a lengthy article about this horrible problem that began in 2000
or sooner. Not sure when the article will be out, but some time
in the next few months. When I see it, I
will try to forward you the article.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 02:32:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Scad
First of all, I would like to thank you immensely for the publishing
of your site. I know it has been difficult as I have encountered
the "wrath of the Rowans" myself.
In 1987 our dorm room was broken into and an unknown man armed with a shotgun, raped and sodomized my roommate and I. Upon learning this, the Rowans called us seperately to thier office and practically demanded we sign certain "insurance documents". Obviously at this time I was very distraught and could not understand how they could be so thoughtless and cruel. After a few more attempts to get me to cooperate and be silenced I finally obtained a lawyer, determined to fight back. Upon that time I was requested by Mrs. Rowan to speak with her where she declared "you don't think I will allow you to get away with this, do you"?
The proceding three years were, nevertheless were made miserable for me and my experiences come right out of a nightmarish thriller novel. As hard as it is to believe, the treatment we received was far more devastating than the actual occurance in the dorm room. I was watched/followed and later I learned that a neighbor, was also hired to keep tabs on me. I wasnt aware of this until a faculty member whom I had never met informed me of this. I still to this day, find it hard to believe but based on said neighbors past behavior, I believe it.
To further exacerbate circumstances, the Savannah Police were of little or no help in finding the rapist, convinced we were drugged out college girls who's pusher decided to pay them an unwelcome visit. This was after my friend admitted to smoking some marijuana that night. I often visited the station to see what progress had been made, often met with, "we're working on it" or we'll have some mug shots ready soon". My friend had already pointed out a suspect but it was never followed up and when we asked to speak to the lieutenant who was assigned to us, they were always conveniently "unavailable". Soon afterward, my friend left for obvious reasons and I gave up fighting that battle alone.
All in all, it was four years that were extremely sad and painful for me. A lot of my peers thought I was very brave, but at the end I was depleted and felt lost. In hindsight, it would have been a better decision to have left all-together. I think more than not, I didn't want to disappoint my mother, as I was the first in the family to attend college and going anywhere else would have been a financial burden.
The lawsuit was lost to SCAD around 1996. the only positive thing to come from that is I am not censored to say anything I wish about my experiences with them. If you need any assistance at all, I am here to help you. Best to you and thanks again.
Sincerely,
K//////////////
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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:27:24 -0500
Subject: Me, and what I think.
Every story has more than one side, often times far more. I'm
a student at scad, and have been my entire college career, starting
in the fall of 2000. Throughout my stay as a 3d modelling/animation
major with a minor in drawing, I have met some of the most influential,
knowledgable, and caring people that I have ever known. There
are professors at this school who have helped turn me from being
an apathetic kid into a hard working, responsible adult, and I
will never forget any of them. The list is huge, Jeff Markowsky,
Professor Tan, Paul Hudson, Maher Yacoub, Malcolm Kesson, Kelly
Lancaster...I could go on for a very long time. We have some of
the biggest names from nearly every industry in the art world.
Where else can I go where I have a chance to learn Renderman from
a guy like
Malcolm Kesson, what other college in existance will have me learning
how to conceptualize, plan, sculpt, draw, storyboard, and ultimately
produce professional quality work, all being taught by Paul Hudson,
a man who has worked for the FBI, NASA, and Disney?
The students who complain about scad are covering up the fact
that they are, ultimately, lazy. Students in the computer art
department who produce sub-standard animations often blame it
on their professor's teaching, or anything else that shifts the
blame away from their own lack of skill. A career in any artistic
industry takes a love bordering on obsession, and in many cases
it requires sacrifices many are unwilling to accept. If a student
is unwilling to
take the initiative and accept these sacrifices, he or she will
fail without question. To absorb what a professor is teaching,
especially something as technical and complicated as computer
art, they have to go to class, they have to meet the due-dates,
and they have to work outside of class to make sure that they
know what is being presented and understand it completely. A student
might be able to squeek by with a C average and still graduate,
but is it likely that they will get a job? Of course they won't,
it's impossible to get a job in a professional art studio without
showing the art directors professional quality work. A student
cannot blame
a professor, or the administration, for their own apathetic ways
or lack of skill.
I strongly disagree with what scad.info stands for, and oppose
all of those who write to this forum anonymously, speaking of
experiances that are often one-sided and very likely caused by
their own actions/inactions during and outside of classes. It's
one thing to voice an opinion, it is quite another to manipulate
situations into something they are not. I read the post concerning
the "aggressive professor" who attacked another professor
for talking about his wife. I know the man personally, I know
his wife, and I know what happened in the incident. The writer
of the post was anonymous, but I would like to
point out that they WERE NOT there, and DO NOT know the story.
That is not how it happened, and I'll stand up against anyone
who says otherwise. Let me say this again, if you did not witness
an event personally and are acting solely on rumor, how can you
possibly know if you're even remotely close to the truth concerning
the matter? People who spread false rumors, out of ignorance or
otherwise, disgust me. If that post is any indication to the rest,
it's no wonder the school feels violated by this website's presence.
I'll be interested to see if the Freedom of Speech declaration
of this site will extend to my post. It will only prove my point
even further if this is not added in the forum.
Student of Computer Art, Savannah College of Art and Design
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have u seen the latest article in the CONNECT concerning SCAD
deception. Its one thing to be berated by those who are in ones
family, and can be
relagated to a kind of "personal vendetta thing" ---
but criticism of albeit illegal practices are also claimed by
outside sources, and on a consistent
basis-- with this in mind, how can anyone deny that SCAD is not
at its heart running on deception? here is a quote from the article
and it forms the
basis for the writing:
"On Sept. 26, the Savannah College of Art and Design
was accused by the watchdog group Security on Campus
of improperly reporting campus crime statistics. The
complaint is pending with the federal Department of Education.
"
I think the critical issues of SCAD's deceptions are beginning to more and more speak for themselves...
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:44:47 -0400
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i really wish i had found this website before i rejected my acceptance
to North Carolina State University at the age of 28 moved myself
AND a husband with an established career attend this so called
institution that has jerked me around since the day i arrived
in savannah (after filling me full of fantasies during the application
process)! i'm wondering if anyone else out there has had a similar
experience!
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 04:36:54 +0000
Subject: more on rick & rocky and some other things
hey there--
well, i've been reading your site on a pretty regular basis since about the middle of spring quarter 2002, which was right around the time that i experienced a royal screwing from SCAD. it's kind of a weird situation because it has a lot to do with the professor involved and not just the administration...but basically, i had a bad experience in an english course and the professor had personal issues with me. she was a very conservative southerner in her 60's and i am a pierced, tattooed, liberal bostonian, go figure. anyway, she ended up giving me an F in the course. after doing the math, i concluded that at the least, i should have ended up with a D. i was often picked on by the professor in front of the rest of the class and eventually i didn't even want to work anymore, but none of my efforts or assignments ever hit a point that would constitute a failing grade.
so, i requested a conference with this professor to discuss my grade and see if i could do something about it. my dad was coming down to visit so i figured i should schedule it around that time because everybody knows that once you sic your parents on SCAD, your chances of winning a battle increase..well, slightly, anyway. when we walked in there, she proceeded to spread out examples of my work on the desk and trash it, not letting me get a word in edgewise. after a time, i was asked to wait out in the hall while my dad talked with her. she hadn't yet budged on changing my grade or giving me any kind of opportunity to redeem myself. my dad got really pissed and actually said, "this is bullshit!" and then walked out. i realize that was very rude, but since i wasn't in the room, i couldn't step on his foot and be like, "dad, shutup!"
anyway, the clincher here is that the professor totally overreacted and claimed that my dad had verbally and physically threatened her. she then filed a report that i had violated 2 separate articles of the student code of conduct. naturally upon seeing a letter of this sort, i freaked out and called my parents. well, they shit enough bricks to build a whole new scad building...they couldn't believe it.
just as i had gotten used to reassuring myself that this had everything to do with the teacher and nothing to do with the school, i was made to sign a release form (i didn't know any better and was afraid that i'd get put on scad's shitlist and eventually thrown out or something) and asked to write a letter of apology to this professor, even though i didn't do anything wrong. the head of the judicial board was actually really nice and i think he understood where i was coming from, but i got a clear sense that he had no choice in how he dealt with the situation, because it was pre-determined in a way, god forbid the staff or faculty bends the rules.
i actually forgot about writing the letter and by the time i remembered, i told myself that if asked again, i would adamantly refuse. my parents thought it was really messed up that i had to do this, as if they needed anything to fret about other than the obscene amount of money they were paying during my freshman year for me to starve at o-house...well, i stayed in savannah for summer quarter and when i was in the library one day i ran into my old composition professor. when she asked what other english classes i had taken, i mentioned forms of poetry with angela merta (which i got an A in!) and this hideous, evil class with the terrible, awful professor that i cannot name. then she said, "oh....she left." since i'm a smart-ass i blurted out, "oh good! i mean, why?" my composition teacher refused to even give a vague answer like "moral reasons" or "health issues" and gave me the distinct impression that it was something very secretive and probably pretty fucked up. given that we're talking about SCAD, one of the most politically corrupt organizations since , oh maybe the Third Reich or perhaps NAMBLA if you could consider them such a thing, i'm not surprised.
in the wake of all this, i had also written an academic appeal to try and get some money back from this class. not only did it take 2 months for me to hear from anybody about this, but the appeal was turned down. i honestly wonder if they read it at all.
anyway, i'm now in my second year at SCAD and so far this quarter has actually been really good. despite the nightmares i've had with SCAD and their horribly skewed politics and red tape bullshit, i feel like so far this is a good place for me and i've taken my education more into my own hands. i decided over the summer that i was not going to leave SCAD and instead i would work extremely hard and do everything in my power to have things go my way. i figure my biggest revenge and my biggest "fuck you" to SCAD will be to graduate with superb grades, a portfolio to blow their minds, and then roll my diploma up and stuff it right up their asses.
oh yeah, as for rick and rocky. four of my very good friends all worked on that project and they all feel VERY screwed over by the school. it's gotten to the point where i can't even joke about it anymore around them because it pisses them off that much to talk about it. i saw firsthand the amount of work SOME people (not brandon) put into that project, i heard all the dirty gossip, and i bore witness to SOME people (not brandon) staying at studio A right up to a minute before the building closed. for a while i adapted "rick and rocky" as an adjective describing something that would never get done even though people insist that it will be done, i.e. the big dig in boston: "oh man, that's so rick and rocky." but seriously. my friends got dicked out of time, money, studio space, and all this for the exchange of an absurd amount of hard work on their part. i actually almost jumped on the project around the beginning of spring quarter to help them out but by that time they were supposedly "too far along" to start training me, which is hilarious because i still haven't seen foam-injected head nor foam-injected tail of rick or rocky. oh well, i guess it's for the better. in all honesty i think it's a huge shame that this project didn't work out, the temporarily ruined lives of my friends aside. i'm a 2-d animation major, sound design minor, and a stop-mo fiend so i think i would've liked it.
p.s. i think they should spell SCAD like $CAD.
p.p.s. please don't use my name, i don't want the evil professor finding me and coming to my apartment and killing me or something.
To: <freedomofspeech@scad.info>From: R/// B/////////<r////////////t>
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:07:53 -0600
Mr. Houeix
Below is the picture of what SCAD is now using in place of www.scad.info. They are masking you address (www.scad.info) and redirecting all the students that try to access your website from the inside of SCAD to that bogus scad.info page (the picture below) The thing I find humorous is if SCAD has nothing to hide and everything on your site is fake then why show the fake scad.info page?
People (SCAD) who hide things don't want other people to know thus they are guilty of something maybe something really big.
P.S. please don't post my address or name... thank you :)
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To: <freedomofspeech@scad.info> From: "Nicole C//////s"
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:40:26 +0000
Sadly it is quite impossible for any SCAD community members
to view your site from an on campus computer. I am very interested
in what information your site has to offer as a student of SCAD,
but they have blocked the site on all computers hooked up to their
network. I had a friend (from another college) copy and paste
to me the front page of your site in an email, but that's all
I can read. None of the links will work for me. The fact that
they try so hard to block what you have to say seems to be proof
that they have something to hide.
~Nicole
To: <freedomofspeech@scad.info> From: ////////////@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:15:44 EDT
I recently spent some time with a friend who told me some very
interesting, first-hand stories of Paula Wallace. This friend
of mine, along with several others were all over at Paula's house
for a student dinner, and they had the "pleasure" of
sitting at the same table as the prez. One of them asked Paula
about the little Mandarin girl, Madison, she and her husband adopted
last year. Paula replied, "Well, I've always wanted a Mandarin
child."
Can you believe it??!! She talks about the child as if it were
furniture or clothing or something... like, "I've always
wanted a Prada suit." Then she continued to tell them how
she got Madison. Paula said that this woman she knows called her
up and told her that they had found this little Mandarin girl
in a train station. The woman said that she knew that Paula had
always wanted one and asked if she wanted her. Then one of my
friends asked why she named the little girl "Madison",
and she said that she was named after Madison Square in Savannah.
But then she quickly followed by giving another reason that the
initials "MW" (for Madison Wallace) looked really nice
monogrammed!!!! I just had to share this little gem of a story.
Can you imagine if the had a reality-based tv show set in the
life of Paula Wallace? WOW! Pretty
entertaining stuff...
To: <freedomofspeech@scad.info> From: "///////////////"
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 03:25:27 -0700
I'll be completely honest with you. I realize that a lot of students have not enjoyed their time at SCAD. Many of the faculty have been treated very unfairly. Having become good friends with many of the faculty members, I have heard their side of the story and asked for their feelings concerning this site. SCAD is one of the few schools that does not offer it's Professors tenure. This is done, so I'm told, so that professors will not develop apathy towards their instruction, and may be terminated if they fail to perform. As a student, I see the unfairness, and the fairness in this. Whether or not they strike a balance remains to be seen.
I'm a student in the computer art department, and a minor in
the film department. I have met several students that are happy
with their scad experience, and many that aren't. Having previously
come from a University and transferred to scad, the mentality
of many of the students here is one of disregard for hard work.
I have seen my fair share of students halfass their final projects,
waiting until the last few weeks to work on what should be the
culmination of their entire scad experience. I personally work
extremely hard to better myself, and have experienced what I feel
has been a very rewarding 2 and a half years at SCAD. The equipment
facilities in comparison to many schools are simply amazing, and
there should be no complaints in that department. I admit, many
of the professors lack the proper training and preparation necessary
for the courses they are assigned to teach, but this holds true
for all colleges and universities. You will get as much out of
SCAD as you put into it. A friend of mine made it into AFI with
their demo reel, owing much of their talent to the scad experience.
I have several friends that have graduated from my department
and currently work at ILM and Sony. What separated them from the
rest of the students was the fact that they worked their ass off.
Much like I'm doing now. I spend the
entire quarter working nonstop, and my work compared to that of
my peers shows and obvious difference in quality. I feel that
many of the student body complaints are unfairly made. I know
that I don't speak for everyone, but I love SCAD. It does indeed
have a darker political climate, and I do not care at all for
President Wallace's treatment of the faculty and student body,
but the experience I've had with many good professors more than
makes up for this.
I hope that prospective students will read all opinions on this site, not just mine, but the negative as well, and form their own view. But please, understand from a fellow student, you will only take from SCAD as much as you put into it. And I'm not speaking monitarily. Art is my passion. I live to create, and scad has greatly facilitated my need to do so. If you think you're just going to coast through the school, passing off your bad experiences on the inadquecies of the staff, please go somewhere else.
Lovingly, A. Nonymous (hey, even those of us who like scad fear the gestapo)
To: <freedomofspeech@scad.info>
CC:
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:09:33 -0500
Subject: schools for int design
I found your website, and had a couple of questions rather than
comments. I recently started at scad and am planning on a major
in interior design. i
know there are flaws in the school, but truly know little about
the specifics of the interior design program. could you enlighten
me a bit?
also, if the program is as pitiful as the 'hierarchy' of the school
could you give me clues as to what schools i should look into.
I came here because scad had a good placement rate. that is
not paramount, but is a big selling point for me. i have had trouble
with the financial
aid and bursars offices, so, the business end of school has become
extremely important to me recently. i would appreciate any information
you could send
me. thanks for your time,
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From: ////////////////////// To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:35:33 -0400
hello, i've been reading postings on this site from some time and have a few things to contribute.
Has anyone else noticed the LONG line of really awesome people
leaving scad lately? Almost every single person in the student
involvement office has left. There was Misty, Christy Certo, Bob
Frigo, and now I've heard that Lynne Gentile has left! The Dean
of Students is gone, and now an anatomy professor has taken her
place. I've gone from knowing a lot of administration and the
good people in high places to hardly anyone. Frances Wong is the
only real decent one I know left that actually cares about the
students. Even if these people were offered great jobs, it's just
a little shocking for it all to happen at once. If anyone knows
what happened to Lynn please post!
While I don't condone any of the horrible things scad has done
and continues to do, i don't like reading rumors that are not
true... i was reading something about the parking. As a student
that has to go to poetter all the time I know there is no parking,
and have racked up probably a month's rent worth of parking tickets
in my time. But the lot next to crites was never ours, and while
i don't know if the lot next to the library used to be ours, I've
been told for over two years not to park in it, and i've never
seen it on one of our maps. Oh, and for those of you complaining
about not having a student government, WE DO. Or as close to one
as we're ever going to have. USF, the United Student Forum.
I've seen it shot down in the past, but they're actually making
progress. They're the reason scad has a real gym, the reason the
food has gotten better, and the meal plan options better, while
i know it's still not GREAT it is a lot better! They are also
working on some kind of a student union center and paula has someone
working full time to find a building to put it in. If anyone ever
bothered to attend any of the meetings (and there are posters
ALL over scad) then you would know about all the things going
on. All of the meetings with the president and all the things
that are happening in our favor. If you want something changed,
instead of complaining about it do something about it. Take your
concerns to your representative, each major has a rep, and a lot
of organizations do too.
I have a lot of stories of my own, i've been in on meetings with the president, and the police, and even been on the news last fall regarding all of the crime. There's a LOT going on that I don't like, and I've been told by many people to be very careful, and I completely believe we should be. Don't dig to deep, things do go wrong sometimes.
please keep this anonymous
thanks
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:35:39 EDT
When Morgan talked about Jeff "breaking down", it really didn't surprise me at all.
Jeff does that a lot. He use to call groups of students together
in his office for little pity parties. Doesn't it seem kind of
pathetic when the chair of a department has to constantly ask
his students what he is doing wrong. That seems to be DeVincent's
biggest problem... CARING too much what people about him rather
than DOING the right thing whether people like it or not. If he
always did what was ethical and professional, he wouldn't have
to worry about what his students think. And believe me, they all
know when he's got something to hide, even the ones he thinks
he can control.
But so many are afraid to speak up and ask questions. They're
scared of either being blacklisted in the department or of disappointing
DeVincent, who expects certain students to follow him blindly
and go with the flow nomatter what.
To those people who feel the burden of smiling and nodding when
you know something is wrong, remember... you have a right as a
student to know what is going on when your education is affected!
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
To: phoueix_master_scad@hotmail.com
Subject: You kick ASS!!
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:52:54 -0600
dude. your site is amazing! f SCAD and i hope you succeed in bringing
them down. i am with you all the way and from the second i
graduated, i realized they would never get a penny from me. i
do have a serious question though. if you do bring them down and
they lose their accreditation what happens to the rest of us that
graduated in the semi-old days? what do we say when people ask
where we went to school? and then they respond "oh the one
that just ost their credentials..." if you have thought of
these repercussions, could you get back to me with your thoughts.?
thanks,
F//////////////////
From: Christopher S////////// <////////////////////////////////////>
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:08:23 -0400
Some of the things on this site are understandable. I sympathize
for Mr. Houeix. But alot of the statements here seem to lack substantial
backing. If you have a problem, form a petition. Talk to the president.
How can you see what she's truly capable of if you judge her by
stories that have no factual base. Even if the stories are true
you have the power of the media.
I do believe that any university cannot truly be a place for higher
learning without giving the students some trust; some responsibility.
A student government is in great need - students need to feel
secure about speaking their thoughts and their ideas. But the
negative action
and voice that takes place on this site has already been attempted,
or have you not read Warren St. John's article discussing the
attempts to rid SCAD of the Rowans? I believe that Paula is a
wonderful president who gives every department boundless opportunities.
But some opportunities are not needed, while others are not offered.
To gain a liking of the student body, she needs to be willing
to listen. And not just listen.
She needs to be willing to consider the voice of the people who
keep the institution going; the students. But in order for her
to feel safe enough to do that, we need to go about our grievances
in a more civilized and professional manner. We need to give her
options; we need to be able to compromise.
If the objective of this site is accomplished, what will you benefit
from it? The school will lose it's accreditation and five- thousand
students will lose their school. Don't create a civil war out
of this.
Figure out what you want from this school, and then find out how
to get it.
Just an idea - everyone who reads this - fill out one of those
feedback slips all over campus - ask for a student government
- be anonymous if need be. See what happens. It can't hurt. Then
you won't be complaining about the answer to a question you haven't
asked yet.
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:56 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: Your site
I am a current student at SCAD and have spread the word about
your site to many people. I am so proud of you for keeping up
the fight. I have had many difficulties with the school, to the
point where my lawyers were involved. Thank goodness that I only
have this and next quarter left and I'm getting the hell out of
there too.
It really baffles me how SCAD almost promises students when they're
applying that they'll have a job when they graduate. I have many
friends that have graduated both this, and last year who are still
looking for jobs. I wish that people understood that there is
a life/world outside of SCAD!
I'm so glad I have gone against the rules in the past four years
that I have been here. As a sophomore, I wanted to do an internship
with a company, but because I wasn't a Junior or Senior, SCAD
didn't approve it. I went ahead and did the internship anyway,
and because I did, the company has offered me a job when I graduate.
Be in mind that this is no thanks to SCAD. In fact most of these
majors are useless.
I look forward to reading your site every week, and going back
and telling more and more students about what I've read. You would've
been so happy. I'm not sure who it was, but somebody hacked into
the SCAD computers in the library and made scad.info the home
page. Thank goodness SCAD is slow to react to anything, because
it was this way for over a week!
When the time is right, I will tell my story about SCAD, which
will probably help many students, and maybe even you. Let's just
say, SCAD didn't get a chance to rip me off. But until then thanks!
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:42 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: SCAD parking
I'm a SCAD film/video major conducting my final quarter at the college. Let me say that when I started coming here, I was totally enraptured by the college. The classes, availabilty of equipment and assistance, the professors...all were top notch. But a lot has changed in four years. To start off, SCAD has been accepting 5x the amount of applicants into the school as they were doing. This used to be a very difficult college to get into...but now it seems that if you have the $$$, you're accepted. The college (not to mention the town) is growing increasingly overpopulated because of this. Classes are harder to get into and parking has become very scarce. Equipment availabilty and outside-class assistance has become virtually non-existent. Now Paula Wallace is throwing around the students' tuition money on her own pet project (The "Rick & Rocky" movie), which has taken over most of the ! film/video facilities, gone two quarters above schedule, and is *way* overbudget.
Just when I thought SCAD couldn't get any worse, NOW they have snubbed us by selling student parking lots to town businesses. For example, the two massive lots of Crites Hall (which now house virtually every single liberal arts course at the college), have been sold to some nearby business. Last quarter these lots were being filled with nearly 200 student cars each day. Now, any SCAD student found parking in these lots will be towed so that the 4 employees of this company can have their parking spots. The same goes for SCAD's Jen Library on Broughton St (the busiest road in town). The library lot has been sold to a little furniture shop across the street. The small Hamilton Hall parking lot has also been sized down to make way for an "outdoor smoking area," since SCAD no longer allows people to smoke in front of their buildings. Add to the fact the incredibly scarc! e availabilty of Savannah parking places and the fact that the town's meters now only accept quarters and you have a serious problem on your hands. Parking is pretty awful this summer, but what happens when the 10,000+ students return in the fall? For the first time, SCAD's greed has stretched beyond the school walls and is affecting our living conditions in town.
I've included pictures of these lots to show you just how devestating this is to SCAD students.
BTW, I would like to be kept anonymous.
Thanks and good luck with the web site.
response about this email /others
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:55
PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: The TRUTH about MPRA Dept.
Hello.
I will be entering my senior year in the Media and Performing
Arts Department at SCAD in the Fall of 2002. Like many of my peers,
when I heard about your website, I went to it. Since that time
I have checked back a few times to see what people are saying
about the school my parents are paying a lot of money for me to
go to. Some of what has been said I agree with. Some of what has
been said I oppose with full force. I would like to take this
time to express my (one person) opinion and hope that you will
post it on your site, even though not all of what I have to say
is going to champion your cause. SCAD has problems. It's run like
a business, not a school. This is most definetly true. I don't
really know Paula Wallace save for the hideous painting in Jen
Library, but it does, I agree, seem that she cares a lot about
her and the school's image than most anything else. I have met
her in person on occasion and it's true that she'll chat with
you for a few moments...until somebody more important walks into
the room (at which point her eyes drift away from yours and little
dollar signs appear like in Looney Tunes). The parking situation
at SCAD is a ridiculous problem that plagues everyone, yet no
one in administration can seem to figure out a damn thing to do
about it.
Not to mention student safety. I love chatting with the security
guards because they are interesting individuals, but some of these
people couldn't save me from a rabid cockroach. Most of all, I
think I can speak for anyone ever involved with SCAD when I say
that you must have to pass some kind of idiocy test to be able
to be hired to work in Propes Hall. I hate them and the headache
they usually give me. Now...on the flip side...yes, Lorri Lindberg
was an amazing teacher. I would venture to say that she changed
my life...she had that much of an impact. But so did other professors
who don't seem to have a problem with how the department is run
or at least trying to fix things in an efficient and professional
manner (Barbara Williams, Karla Knudsen, Curtis Krick, Andrew
Levine, Jeanine Pardey...all WONDERUL human beings whom I could
never thank enough and all talented to boot). And let's be honest
people...everyone in the MPRA department knows Lorri didn't fit
in at SCAD. Maybe she was too good, maybe she was too big for
SCAD, maybe she wasn't good enough, maybe she should be teaching
at Harvard...who knows. But I had three classes and a lot of advising
from Lorri and there was never any secret to the fact that she
wasn't happy at SCAD. Ever. As for Jeffrey DeVincent...has Jeff
pissed me off before? Of course. Have I wanted to kill him? Yes.
But I've also felt that away about my mom before...you know? Nobody's
perfect, not me, not Jeff, not SCAD. I challenge anyone who has
bashed Jeff to sit down with the man and hold an actual conversation
with him...especially that idiot who says Jeff "manhandled"
him through Trustees Theatre to the street. Jeff is a big guy...and
I guarentee to you it's mainly due to the fact that is heart is
so big. And do you people think that your words don't affect your
targets? I was personally called into a meeting with Jeff DeVincent
at the beginning of this past school year after another website,
quite like yours all though a touch more malicious, was posted
by a disgruntled ego-maniac of a student with a passion for mowing
down those that stand in the way of what that person wants. The
reason for the meeting was to discuss what Jeff can do to help
the students in the department. He was truly distraught. He had
been attacked on that website...I watched the man nearly break
down in front of my eyes because he felt that he had hurt the
students and wasn't good enough. Yes, I told him, there are problems,
but it's nothing you can't fix. It broke my heart to see him like
that. I'll be the first to admit that maybe my opinion is biased.
I've gotten a lot from Jeff and owe him a great deal. But if people
are allowed to voice their negativities about him, then I feel
that opinions from the positive side should posted right next
to them on your site. If your goal truly is freedom of speech,
then post everything people send you, regardless of it's orientation,
and let people decide for themselves when they have all the facts.
In closing, I have met some of my closest friends in the world
at SCAD. People that are extremely talented (both faculty and
students) and are perfectly competent at their jobs. And yes,
I have learned a lot from my expierences here good AND bad...and
isn't that what college is about? Maturing for better or worse?
Learning from mistakes, yours and other people's? I beg of you
to not perpetuate a pity party on your site, but to truly use
it in a meaningful and PRODUCTIVE way to get what could be a truly
amazing and unique institution to be the best and truest that
it can be. And of course, thank you for letting my express my
thoughts. I leave it in yours hands Mr. Houeix.
Proud to Put My Name on My Opinion,
Morgan Allen
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:07 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: A weak teacher rid the students of a great teacher...
I take back many things I thought about jeff devincent - I THOUGHT he was a good person. How could he let go of quite possibly the best teacher in our department? I only had one class with Lorri - but that one class taught me more than Mr. DV has probably ever learned. Obviously DeVincent wants to be the favorite teacher in the department - but he'll never be that because he doesn't understand what it takes to be an outstanding teacher. And where does he have the right to say that she is getting close to us? She doesn't spread gossip about things that will never happen or promise people opportunities and not come through. Lorri made me feel like a true proffessional actor, and like a good person. Jeff makes me feel like a puppet with no control in my future. Lorri - if you end up at another school - please tell me - I'll be there. There's so much more I wanted to learn from you and I'm tired of this sh--t department and our lousy stuck-up bastard of a department head. And the sad part is, he will keep on weeding out his problems, even though he is the only thing holding this department back. Lorri's direction gave us a straight road to a professional career - Jeff's road is windy and bumpy and may not lead you where you want to go... Please don't be afraid to speak up against him - it's obvious we out number him, but we need to speak up together or we'll be weeded out of opportunities one by one.
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:25 AM
To: scad.info
Subject: Lorri Lindberg
I'm writing in to express my sadness and frustration at the news that Lorri Lindberg, one of SCAD's absolute best professors, has been fired. Somehow I knew when reading the anonymous post in the faculty part of your site that it must be her. I only had her for one class years ago, but she helped me open up so much - she helped me find my voice, not just artistically but personally, and I am greatly indebted to her for it. I've set up an e-mail address (anonymously, of course) because I'd like for anyone who sees this and knows how to contact Lorri to let me know. I'll be writing the administration shortly to let them know what I think of this short-sighted, ignorant decision. Lorri was one of SCAD's most beloved professors. I doubt she wants her job back, but she, and SCAD deserves to know that the students are _VERY_ aware that it is not their interests that led to her termination. I won't lay the blame on anyone, because I don't know who it belongs to. Whomever it is, though, deserves to be sent packing.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:05 PM
To: 'freedomofspeech@scad.info'
Subject: firing one of SCAD's jewels
As seen in the recent faculty entry, SCAD has made yet another
colossal, uninformed mistake. By firing the Media and Performing
Arts professor, clearly Lorri Lindberg -- who'd surely prove to
be the most loved, talented, and capable professor in the major
were there to be a student vote -- the school has clearly proven
once again that it is infected and insecure. That Jeff DeVincent
would allow/cause the dismissal of such a jewel to his department
and the theatre world at large, proves that he is just as jealous,
paranoid, and self-serving as the many entries here on your site
have made him out to be. DeVincent and SCAD have shown us (alumni
and current students) once again that the paying students' best
interests aren't at heart but what is is the over-glamorization
of a school and department trying cover its gaping, bleeding blemishes.
A number of students are writing top SCAD officials to testify
that Lorri Lindberg was indeed a tremendous asset to the dept.
and to their SCAD and theatre life. Please do so as well -- those
who read this (and her testimonial) and know her and see fit.
////////////////////////
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:25 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: something funny about wallace...
I've just returned from a weekend trip down to Savannah to see my brothers girlfriend graduate from SCAD (my brother graduates next year). While I was impressed by the amount of debt I saw, I was unimpressed by Paula Wallace and her overall apperance at this weekends graduation. After discussing it with the others who attended with me, we all agreed that there was something strange about her and the fact that she held all the diplomas and did not smile but a few times as she took pictures with the graduates, bothered us.
A few years back, my brother uncovered a 10 plus paged article on the scandal that surrounds SCAD and the oblivious students and parents who dish out the big bucks for their children to get an 'accredited' education.
Over lunch Sunday, my brother and his girlfriend introduced
me to this website and for the first time today, I am reading
through it. It blows my mind that this school is still in running
order. Something needs to be done to show the prospective students
that SCAD is nothing but a fraud.
I only wish my parents knew about this before entering the neverending
highway of debt.
i find it quite humorous that SCAD would so easily hand over a masters degree when (and this is what i was told) if the graduates this past weekend got up during the graduation ceremoney (which was 3-5 hours long) to use the facilities, they would not get theirdiplomas and would not graduate.
I'm discusted with SCAD and will advise anyone who becomes
interested in this college to visit your site.
thanks for pinning my eyes back once again with yourknowlege of
this scandal.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:24 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: Too cheap for models
This should interest you. I'm a student here at SCAD and am familiar with the incomprehensible shennanigans one can encounter here. This, however, should really shed some light on the school's true purpose. I recently found out that the open model sessions here are in danger of being phased out. Being an artist yourself, I don't think I need to explain the seriousness of the matter.This was held every Friday and was an invaluable tool to help hone one's life drawing skills. No explanation has been given that can truly be considered the correct one. We heard that the school didn't want to pay for the sessions anymore, that a federal law prohibited models as part-time employees from working more than 19 hours, that they will expand the program in the future. All we can say is for certain is that where there were once 5 to 6 models at least in short, long and medium poses, now you're fortunate to even have one or two. As stated before all we hear is rumor and innuendo. No effort has been made to inform the students at all. Professors have been rumored to have been reprimanded when a petition was formed. Again, it is unknown if this is true. The petition, if it was made, of course didn't work. To say that an art school considers life drawing sessions it sponsored (outside of the staggering 3 life drawing class sections it does possess) as being worthy of elimination speaks volumes. This shouldn't be an issue If we don't practice, we don't improve. We don't improve we don't get employed. We pay enough already: now we have to pay for our own models?. Many of us our borrowing money already and this would be wholly beyond our reach. Is a doctor supposed to learn the body without gross anatomy? A musician his music without practicing his scales? Yet we have money for an equestrian center. The fact is that this is the last straw. We are hoping you can forward this information to whomever can force the school to reconsider this stupid course of action.If not, any suggestions would still be considered welcome. For obvious reasons, I can't give you my identity. By the way, the two names overheard as being responsible for this are Jeff Ealey and Doug Bradley. Another caveat: this is what was rumored and since the school has purposefully kept us in the dark, no confirmation can be given.
P.S.
If you have Sinister Designs please let us know. The website LinguaFranca.com stated that publishing had to be halted. No information can be obtained from the site. Please email it to us if you have it. Thank you.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:03 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: Enough!
I know of a recent incident that happened between 2 professors
in the computer art department. While in the elevator, one professor
made a comment about the other's wife working as a secretary there.
No big thing, just a comment like "maybe she can find this
out for us." The other professor flipped on him and threw
him up against the wall in the elevator & threatened him.
The door opens and staff & students saw everything. Now, the
situation has been dealt with ... but this is how:
:: The aggressive professor was still allowed to teach, however
could not be seen on campus unless he was teaching. Why? Because
he kisses the shit that comes out of the President's ass.
:: The attacked professor had to sign a form saying he was not
attacked so badly and he would disregard the incident & not
sue anyone, etc. Instead he was disgusted and quit.
They keep the wrong people in high positions lose the people that can help the campus grow because of them. This guy should have been fired on the spot!
PS>>>> I LOVE THAT ENRON SYMBOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:21 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: SCAD Student aware and paranoid
Do you know anything about the new building that the Computer Art and Film & Video depts are moving to? From the photos I've seen it looks like an old condemned factory building. If Kai Hall did not have a Certificate of occupancy and with the health problems within Poetter Hall. What hidden treasures lurk with this new building in Mid town Savannah? Could it have PCB's, Radon, Lead or other chemical vapors leaching from the ground? Do you know where I can gather public information about this?
Our other concern is safety in that area. Some students think of it as a bad area of the city and those students will fear walking to their cars at night. But the college will probably not care if we're attacked, as long as they get their tuition payments. Most of us students are beginning to think that all the college cares about is the money like a greedy Enron.
Just out of curiosity, do you think that the Security personel are just a front? To pretend that the campus is protected? They never look at our ID cards when we enter the buildings. In fact, if you forged up a card, they would not know its fake because all we have to do is flash it before their eyes.
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:15 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: trouble in paradise
First, let me say that I'm truly sorry for what SCAD did to you, and I'm glad you're seeking justice. Also, I can really sympathize with the student having problems with the Performing Arts department. I graduated from the department this year and had many problems with the way things were run from the curriculum of the classes to the casting of the shows. I was promised many things (including leading roles in shows) by DeVincent, and he became extremely defensive everytime he was confronted about not following through with his promises. He keeps his "plate of favorites" spinning around on one finger, and if you fall off, you're gone for good because he always has someone in mind to replace you. And if you aren't one of his favorites now, you might as well give up because you'll never get there. But then again, is being one of Jeff's favorites really that great? My advice is: do your own thing. Don't rely on the department for help. As far as the story about DeVincent attacking someone. That's not surprising considering one of his favorite tv shows is the Sopranos, and he likes to pretend he's one of them! Seriously! The man has some issues. Be warned future and present SCAD Performing Arts students: If you aren't an attractive, all-American, boy or girl with no backbone and low self-esteem, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! It's for your own good, so you won't get hurt like I did along with many others.
Friday, May 10, 2002 8:21 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: professors
Hi Philippe,
Philippe,
I'm a student at SCAD. While I've never had that bad of an experience with the school, I was glad to see your site. Although my one bad experience was with the bursar's office, and not with the academic program, the airtight secrecy around campus has always felt dangerous to me. That, combined with a total lack of a student government (United Student Forum? what a joke!) creates an opportunity for some Very Bad Things to go on, sight unseen.
Two things have caught my eye lately. The first is the quality of some of the professors. There are many professors I've worked with during my time at SCAD that have been absolute masters of their respective fields. Unfortunately I've had my fair share of bad professors. I won't name names, but I started checking, and almost all of the professors who I've had bad experiences with earned their degrees at SCAD. That's not to say everyone getting a masters and teaching simultaneously at SCAD are not earning their degrees, but it certainly seems possible that some are getting through.
Second, I think the administration is shooting themselves in the foot by dealing with criticism the way that they do. Instead of the current strategy of denial, lies, and coverups, they should root out the people causing these problems, and rectify the situation. In the long run, the administration isn't helping themselves by hiring incompetent professors. Even if you think about it solely from a business perspective, all ethics aside, it would make better business sense to create the best atmosphere possible. After all, the better a reputation the college has, the more students there will be to pay higher tuitions. Playing favorites is never a good business move.
Anonymously...like I said, you can never be TOO paranoid with SCAD.
Please don't reveal my e-mail address! Thanks!
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:18 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: thought you should know
Dear Mr. Houeix,
I thought that you might find it interesting that some one has
hacked into the Jen Library computer system and made your site
the main page. Your site is the talk of the school.
As a senior with 3 weeks left till graduation - I would like to say that in some ways you are our hero for exposing a school that many of us have known was corrupt for a very long time.
Being corrupt goes much deeper then masters degrees here. There
have also been numerous gang related student deaths and muggings
that have been covered up by this school. If our parents knew
how this town really was they would have pulled us out years ago.
However, inspite of being corrupt and a dangerous town many of
us have received valid educations. I am worried that bringing
these issues forward will discredit our BFA degrees. This is a
degree that I assure you I spend 4 years, working long hours and
struggling for.
I believe that you have done the honest thing, Just be aware
that you maybe not only be hurting the schools reputation, but
also it's graduates.
Thank you for your courage and honesty -
scad graduate 2002
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:43 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: greedy bastards
I wouldn't really call myself a typical college student, I don't drink, I don't party, and I certainly don't have any free time. I work pretty much 40 hours a week. I'm a senior at SCAD, and plan on walking down the preverbial "aisle" on June first. I carry a full load with classes, and consider myself to be a morally correct person. I say all this because SCAD has thrown such a bombshell on me.
I, along with 85% of the students at SCAD have direct loans.
My parents are not by any means rich, and my father has told me
our family now "owes" SCAD ninety grand for my education.
This quarter has been terrible for me. I'm down to the nitty-gritty
and finding out that being a full time student and worker just
isn't cutting it anymore. I'm beyond stressed out. Well. I figured
the director of financial aid would understand my plight and help
me when I wanted to drop a class with a FULL refund one week after
drop add week. I figure a college that catalogues itself as "nonprofit"
would empathize with me wanting to take a summer course.( If any
of you didn't know, you can take a full quarter of classes after
taking part in the grad ceremony, but I digress...)As it stands
I'm actually on the borderline of even being able to graduate.
I have heard my GPA in my major is below what it should be, and
that I would have to make all "A's" to bring my GPA
up. So I figure I could pull my academic advisor into the appeal
to help me. I was so unbelievably wrong. What I wanted to prove;
the fact that I'm so overwhelmed and I need help, turned into:Why
don't you just drop the class? You signed up for it-therefor it
is your problem. Nonprofit my ass! This school that is supposedly
nonprofit basically has told me that I'm not good enough to get
my two grand back for one class. Anyone that has money troubles
like me should totally understand. Now here I sit with a third
class that I'm probably going to fail, and I need to make an A
in it. As if I'm not stressed out enough, SCAD has to bend me
over. Not to mention my father has told me that he will not sign
for another loan. So my question is: anyone got $2000?
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:12 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject:
Hello, I'm currently a Sophmore at SCAD, and in a short time here, I've already witnessed the corruption in the system. Primarily the disregard for students' well being. During the winter quarter of 2002, I was jumped and beaten on the Turner Bridge. (The one that goes from Turner House to the Weston Parking Lot)
The security guard that was supposed to be watching the bridge had left for a "Code 3." (Better know as using the restroom) Fiveyoung men trespassed onto SCAD's grounds. Two of which jumped the hip high fence and ran at me on the bringe. I was punched in the face, tackled, and then repetedly kicked. I managed to get away and ran to Turner's courtyard to find the "dispatch" walking in the courtyard, and the rest of the security having a pow wow at the front gate. Code 3? Very upset I told the dispatch what happened and he casually walked to the bridge, gee, the assultants were gone. The night manager was brought to Turner to fill out a report and the police would be called. (police never showed up)
A friend of mine works at the police station and told me they were never called. I informed my coach and word was supposed to get to the president. I don't believe it ever did, as I was not ever again contacted. I personally had to contact and set up an appointment to discuss the matter with the Dean of Students. I didn't want to fight the system, but when the security report hit the scad paper, the District, the anger from that night was sparked again. Allow me to quote the District report: "Two students were approached, but not harmed." HARDLY! I was on a jello diet for at least 3 days. I had a swollen jaw, many bruises, and two golf ball sized knots on the back of my head.
I'm still outraged that the school basically blew off that
evenings actions and didn't offer me the slightest thing in return
when class action lawsuits could have been filed. It was nothing
more than a "shame." I only wish my parents would have
supported me in filing suit. Hopefully any readers will be more
cautious on campus, and not witness what I went through first
hand. Good luck.
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:36 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: hello
i am a freshman at SCAD. i came here from Boston MA. i would
just like to say that from day 1 of my arrival,
i have heard almost nothing good about this school. from stories
about fillers in the food to teachers dying at poetter hall, i
am still questioning the ethics of SCAD. and is it true that portfolios
are NOT required to be accepted into the school? this is an ART
SCHOOL! the main reason for acceptance should be based on a stellar
portfolio! that just blows my mind. i also have questions about
the media and performing arts department that is functioning more
like a high school clicke rather than a professional environment.
and as an aspiring actress, i wonder why i left boston to begin
with...just to come here and be told "you look too typically
broadway, they want more natural people in ..." (the newest
addition to the SCAD performance lineup) i suppose natural means
short and bland. heaven forbid i am tall and thin and talented.
no worries however, for the shows that i have seen consist of
decent sets and overacting. at least when i audtion in the real
world i don't have to tell anyone i "studied" at SCAD.
your website has opened my eyes, as well as many others. i thank
you and plan on visiting again. and by the way, i found this website
in an interesting way. i sat down at a computer at the Jen Library,
and went on to the internet. usually the SCAD website appears
first on the screen. not this time however, your site was the
first to pop up and i immediately started reading. funny how SCAD
really can't prevent the truth from coming out.
thank you,
Freshman at SCAD
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:37 PM
To: phoueix_master_scad@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: SCAD-WEB-FEEDBACK
I think it is neat what you are doing and I know there are other faculty who support you, but you need to have an editor look through your entire document or else you won't seem professional. I am not available as an editor and in fact my own grammar stinks, so I wouldn't be much use. At least copy and paste your text into Microsoft Word and run a spell check. I am not your enemy, I am just trying to give you constructive criticism. You have a real opportunity to do something major here, so I don't want you to hurt yourself.
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 7:29 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: hi there
hi, i went to scad for 2 years, i transferred in from a small
school in GA to pursue a career in computer art. when i came for
my school visit they made it out to be the 'best' school out there
and I would have no problems with any of my teachers, and how
my teachers would be there for me if i needed help.
well that was so untrue, i had problems learning computer programs,
it took me alot longer than others and almost all the computer
art teachers didn't have the time to help me. so my grades suffered,
i became stressed. I figured i am paying 20,000$ a year i should
get something in return from SCAD right? well, not really. I did
find one teacher that wanted to help me learn, i told this professor
that if i had him the first year i was here i would probably have
stayed at SCAD.
I am now going to school at AASU, where the art teachers want
to show you new things and help you learn. i love it there. I
wish the professors at SCAD would take some teaching classes or
some classes on how to be nice to the students. If a student needs
help shouldn't that be your number one priority???? thats how
i feel about SCAD. I was so happy when a guy gave me this website.
I hope it all works out for you. All I would like to know is where
does the 20,000$ go from each student? Because at AASU in-state
tution is 1,153$ less than one class at SCAD so where does the
money go at SCAD????
thank you for listening to me,
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:01 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: bullshit
Hello.
I'm a senior in Graphic Design at SCAD. Let me tell you something
interesting about the degrees at this college.Degrees at SCAD,
and any art school for that matter, mean NOTHING. The only thing
that matters after your graduation is the quality of your portfolio.
SCAD can give out meaningless degrees all day long – EVERY
college does. In the end, they mean nothing without a good portfolio.
To the students, like myself and my friends, who work hard all
day every
day, I applaud your efforts and tell you to look forward to having
an excellent portfolio and a great job. To the rest of the people
that are just getting $200,000 pieces of paper called 'diplomas,'
tough shit.
This college, and every art school in the world, exists to help
you make a stellar portfolio. You can take from that what you
will. If you put in the effort, you will be rewarded. If not,
you'll still live off your parents for another four years.ALL
that matters is the quality of your portfolio. Students graduate
from this college with the best portfolios in the world. That's
why we're accredited. Who gives a fuck about a diploma?
//////////////
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:56 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: FINALLY!!
Dear Phillpee,
Firstly, allow me to say that you are a very brave individual
that I respect a lot. What you are doing with this website is
amazing. I think it is high time that current and future students
are aware of the mockerys that take place on the SCAD campus.I
myself actually have about two bones to pick with SCAD. My first
problem
is the lack of consideration that the faculty and staff give to
us students who weren't raised with silver spoons in our mouths.
It's no secret thatSCAD costs a pretty penny to attend, so naturally
you need money coming from somewhere. However, for some reason
the faculty and staff seem to think that this money comes from
everyones mommy and daddy and that's not the case.Even though
most of the students here drive around in their fancy cars and
do whatever they want, there are those of us who are stretching
every dime we have and working many hours just to stay here. So
I find it very offending when professors say things like "
I know you all can afford to buy this and that because you're
here" or " Just ask your parents for money" I know
it sounds ludacris, but I've had these things said to me by professors
here and I don't appreciate it at all. They treat everyone like
spoiled brats and I'll admit most students here are, but there
are those of us who are actually working hard. I think it's about
time that the faculty and staff take into consideration that not
everyone has "got it made" and quit putting those of
us who don't down. In SCAD's brochure it says all students are
treated like equals...well, that's a load of crap. Students here
gettreated based on the contents of their wallet, not the quality
of their art.
My second bone it with the way the athletes get special treatment.
Being that we are in a school that concentrates on the arts, I
find it strange how
we have atlethic teams anyway, much less teams that get special
treatment. I cant count the number of times I have heard professors
here say " I do not
except late work by any circumstances" All of a sudden when
a member of the basketball team misses a due date, it's okay to
turn in late work or make up
a test. Heck, its even okay to pass up that 5 abcences and you
fail mark. I've seen athletes not attend one class and pass the
class with a B or higher. Meanwhile people like me that attend
class regularly and study all night barely pass. I don't find
that to be justice, nor do I find that fair.
I just hope that future students get to read this letter and
the many others so that they know exactly what they are getting
into. Thank you again for
creating this site.
Sincerely,
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:09 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: SCAD administration
Dear Philippe,
I am a SCAD alumnus and from personal experience, I can say with
confidence that SCAD administrators are filthy, dirty, lying charlatans,
especially Jeff Eley and Dean Bonnie Kubasta. During the Fall
quarter of my senior year, I met with Jeff Eley, Bonnie Kubasta,
and the then assistant to Paula Wallace, Marie Belisle concerning
a truly disgusting and unfair situation that SCAD had created.
I had been working closely with //////////// a fashion professor,
and eventually developed a mentoring relationship with her. She
was abruptly transferred from the fashion department one quarter,
but remained a faculty member of SCAD. Even though she was no
longer teaching in my department, she generously continued to
give me advice and guidance on my work, mostly on an application
for a fashion contest. Somehow SCAD got wind of this and Bonnie
Kubasta demanded that /////////discontinue any contact with me.
I immediately tried to set up a meeting with PaulaWallace, but
as she refuses to have anything to do with students, I met instead
with Jeff Eley, Bonnie Kubasta, and Marie Belisle. During our
meeting they looked me directly in the eyes and told me bold-faced
lies that they never told //////// she couldn’t work with
me. They said
that they thought it was wonderful that I was trying to enter
this contest and that they encourage students to have mentors.
They promised me that they would contact //////// and notify her
that it was not only OK for her to continue with me, but that
they actually supported her effort.
Needless to say, they did no such thing, nor did they have any
intention. A short time later she was terminated.
Sincerely,
/////////////////////
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:44 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: Hello SCAD student here.
Hi
As seems to be the regular rule for this sort of communication I should congratulate you on your efforts. I am a Senior at SCAD and getting ready to graduate soon. I had ONE or TWO good teachers in my major field of 3D animation the whole time I have been here and one is leaving after only a year of teaching at SCAD. Most of my teachers have been incompetent in some way in my major field of 3D animation... They were never bad people, in fact, they were generally great people, they just weren't the right people for the job... The general commonality they shared would have to be a lack of knowledge. I pay $20,000 a year essentially so that I can go into a SCAD building and teach myself how to use the software. It's a fantastically stupid situation when none of the questions you ask get answered.
Heh, and then there are the millions of other things that go on around here. Suicides, murders, DRUGS. 4 years at SCAD have taught me one thing I'll never forget.... DON'T COME BACK.
I'm glad I survived, I feel like I did more than just complete my college education. Several of my friends have been WRONGED to an extreme degree by these fanatical SCAD people. I'll leave it to them to tell their own stories. Good luck with your efforts. If you ever need help with something, anything, email me.
Sincerely,
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:24 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject:
to whom it may concern:
i would like to tell you my appreciation for your strong ethics
and just morals. most would have taken the money and run, your
strength is refreshing and hopeful.my story starts off my first
day i arrived in savannah. i was a freshmen transfer student that
left
ohio on his own, hoping to arrive at a school(paid entirely out
of his own pocket(student loans)) that had given him a dream of
a better life. once i arrived, SCAD decided to give me a taste
of the brutal cut-throat world of big business. i arrived in my
beat-up, old car with barely any change in my pocket ready to
move into one of scad's dorms, but instead SCAD said they had
filled up all there dorm rooms and left me to the streets of savannah(where
i slept for almost 2 weeks). i am a tough individual and that
is why i'm still here but back then i was on the verge of a breakdown.
i was young, scared, knew no one, had no place to go. SCAD was
supposed to be there, but they werent there and they didnt care
if i was either. you would think that this one event isnt enough
to judge such a vast school, but it isnt the only one. Throughout
my career here i have been sad, frustrated and holding in my anger
towards the school because like i said i pay for this school out
of my own pocket. no parents to help, just myself. and when i
graduate this 80,000 dollars i have spent would now be in vain.
i'm a computer art student and in this department the teachers
are horrid. they waste my time with unanswered questions, unchallenged
assignments and unexperienced backgrounds. i'm not the only one
and my story could go on forever. i respect you forever. thank
you for helping me feel better for at least a little while.
////////////////
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:56 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: the "safe and pleasant scad campus"
Hi, my name is Aaron. I am formerly a resident of Hinesburg,
VT a very small homogeneous, sheltered community which preventeed
me from knowing any of the dangers of savannah georgia. Before
i enrolled in the school a representative from scad met with me
in Vermont and when presented with the "how safe is scad"
question replied confidently, "very safe."
I move to savannah and rented an apartment off campus in a decent
neighborhood and the following are incidents that are common of
savannah and effectually scad because the campus is so intermingled
with the city itself:
first morning I move into my new apartment on bolton street I awake to the sound of police removing a dead body from my front stoop (crack head in drug dispute).
Two weeks later my next door nieghbors are watching TV at 7:30pm when two individuals climb in through the window unphased by baseball bats and rob them. By the time the police arrive (an hour and a half later) the robbers have robbed another house on the same block.
Three weeks later my close friend "steve" is shot four times in the back by gang memembers on his way to class. Apparently gang initiation this year is to shoot a scad student ( I do not know this for a fact but scad has tried to deny it despite overwhelming rumors otherwise)
I am robbed by a gang of 13 year old boys on my way to class. I am an easy target becuase I have a portfolio case with me.
A girl (whom i was not aquainted with) is stabbed to death three blocks from the dorms on MLK ave.
My apartment is robbed. Again.
I am arrested for a fake ID and held in jail for three days with no phone call, food and minimal water. (not an immediate danger to everyone but don't even think of getting arrested)
None of the crime in savannah seems to make the newspaper despite it's violent nature and pertinent quality. Now I know where the 30 thousand a year goes.
This goes on and on. If anyone has any questions about these incidents or wants elaboration or just wants more stories, feel free to email me at carbon002@yahoo.com By the way, I'm pretty sure this site is blocked by all scad computers so spread the word to the students to look at it through off site stations.-Aaron
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:37 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: You've only scratched the surface
Philippe,
You've only scratched the surface. It's a ying/yang existance here at 'SCAD'. For every ounce of good, there is an equal and opposite ounce of evil.
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:03 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: the blocking of your site
Dear Mr. Houeix,
My name is /////////////////. I am a first year student at SCAD,
majoring in 3d animation. I'm very upset by the fact that SCAD
has blocked your site to all the students on campus. As far as
I know they are violating one of the very rules our nation was
founded on: Freedom of Speech. I have not been impressed with
the organization or the intelligence of any of the staff or administration
here so far. Further, I feel that the academic advisors are incompetent.
I knew more about what was required for me to graduate then ////////////////,
my advisor.
But back to the internet issue, the advisors are another email…
All of the students that live in dorms here, or "residence
halls" as I have been corrected by the administration, offer
high speed internet for 30 dollars per month. I believe that for
that as a paying customer I should be entitled to view whatever
the hell I want to view. Now, I understand the reasoning behind
blocking audiogalaxy, kazaa, and other napster like programs,
but they blocked them because they ARE illegal. Your site is simply
not threatening to anyone other than SCAD. I want you to know
that I stand behind you and would like to make this page viewable
to all on campus.
Now for another subject….FOOD
Scad forces all students to pay 900 dollars per quarter for the
meal plan. Unfortunately we cannot eat whenever we want to. There
are periods that we have to eat in. Breakfast:8-10, lunch11-4:30,
etc. and if we try to get more meals than one during a period
we are not able to, plus the meals do not roll over if we miss
them. So we are being scammed out of 900 dollars per quarter.
I approached the administration about this and the clearly demonstrated
their stupidity : I asked: "if I miss a lunch then why do
I loose it forever?" their answer: "you don't loose
it. You can use it any other lunch for the rest of the quarter."
Unfortunately since we cant have but one meal per period we never,
ever get that lunch that we missed. My friends at state schools
back in texas pay about 1,100 dollars per semester and can eat
whenever they want to because their meal plan acts like a debit
account, not a ration system.
I think that's enough ranting for now.
Stay strong sir. I respect what you're doing.
Warm regards,
//////////////////
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:17 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: RE: rick and rocky
here are three words that are bound to anger just about anyone (other than those innvloved) in the computer and and flim/video departments.....rick and rocky. here's the story ////////. president rowan writes a story for kids about a boy and his cat. computer art department is enlisted to turn the story into animation. the computer art department creates a class called "group animation project" no announcements are made about the class, and larry valentines little minions and favorite students are enlisted to work on the project. hard working talented students who know what kind of person valentine is and therefore avoid as much contact with him as possible are never informed about the opportunity. the project begins pre production and its decided to shoot characters as stop motion in 3d modeled environments with 2d faces all composisted together. it is also decided to shoot the live action elements on a 24p camera. 24p is the same kind of high definition camera used to shoot Star Wars Episode 2. how much money do you think they dropped on that? the computer art department moves into studio A at hamilton hall. angering many many film video faculty and students who now do not have access to their own chromakey room. the project initially scheduled to last two quarters spills over into spring and is now re-scheduled to wrap up just before graduation. the film/video department has had little to no access to studio A for almost an entire school year. the students working on the project recieve a free class credit for their efforts. at least some of them....plenty were still charged for their full tuition.
last i checked i was paying to attend an educational institution, not a commercial production house...so as the "rick and rocky" merchandise floods the scad booth at siggraph this year as the "its alive" merch did last year i will be sure to violently vommit on the first plush version of paula rowans wondeful investment.
anonymously of course.....(for the love of god i havent graduated yet)
Sent: Monday, , 2002 5:11 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: holy cow
Hi Phillippe.
I am amazed at the responses and troubles detailed on your website. First of all, I can't believe the things people are saying about the college. Secondly, if even half of that stuff is true, I am really scared by what could happen next. I feel that in the four years I have been at SCAD, I have worked hard and put in an honest effort to make my degree worthwhile. I have always had the feeling that there were students here who did not try as hard and they still managed to get by. I was unaware that this was happening with the faculty in any way. Especially concerning an M.A. degree. It would seem to me, that a school so concerned with its reputation, that they would be a little better at making sure to do nothing wrong for fear of exposure at even the slightest screw up. It sounds instead that they committ the acts and then pay the dollars, or use scare tactics to cover it up. I wonder what the other side of the story is though. I find it very strange that Paula Wallace won't get up on the witness stand and even try to defend her business, her brainchild. And where is Richard Rowan? After the divorce, there are so many rumors about that alone, no one seems to have heard a peep from him. And the administration that left with him, who would have thought something fishy was going on there? Well, I am sorry for what you have gone through Phillippe. I hope it all ends up well and you and your family are okay. Just remember what is important at the end of the day. Know that a lot of people stand behind you. If for no other reason than just to find out the truth behind what is happening. You seem to have a very good head start.
/////////////
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:41 PM
To: phoueix_master_scad@hotmail.com
Subject: SCAD-WEB-FEEDBACK
Philippe,
I remember saying goodbye to you and you said you were moving and you then corrected yourself to say you were moving within Savannah. I am astonished at the tales you tell. I find myself perplexed as to what to do. I guess I have always thought it strange how, at least for our dept., that the politics are awfully confused. There is obviously a very strong attachment to the dean and that makes it hard for anything to change. What are you doing now? Are you at a school teaching? Is it a school you recommend? My friend who lives in Chicago went to the Harrington Institute. Do you know about that? Is it a good school?
Anyways, word is out about your website and I think it is a good thing. I think it is time SCAD saw a challenge on the political front. I hope all is well. I know we all miss you here and we could definitely use a good rendering teacher.
An appreciative student
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:00 PM
To: phoueix_master_scad@hotmail.com
Subject: SCAD-WEB-FEEDBACK
have you ever riden in an elevator in jen library and noticed that the city inspection certificates have been expired since early 2001? today i got in one of them and grabbed the hand rail and it completely disconnected from the wall. surely if the effort the school puts forth in trying to silence a voice of opposition was put towards keeping campus safe and taking care of students, we (the students) would have much less to complain about. but as it stands i personally am tired of being treated as though im a nuiscense or a bother when i attempt to contact or god forbid meet with a person in an administrative poisition. i was baited here with the neil blun building (opening just in time for me to graduate and miss it completely)and a promise of outstanding career placement. why is it that when you speak with a career placement person and mention computer art the first thing out of their mouths is "sorry the industry just isnt good right now" i mean come on....ive only paid a little over 60,000 dollars for my education...why should i expect to be treated like an individual.? can you hear the sarcasm? administrators, board members and other people high on the almighty scad totem pole need to realize that its our tuition and our attendence that has gotten you into your position of power. here is a quote that i always send with emails....but now seems very relivant..
"why did one straw break the camel's back? heres the secret: theres a million other straws underneath it." - mos def
thanks for standing up against such a near sighted pompous opponent philippe. for all theyve done and all theyve lied about...scad should be punished. i am still seeking a degree...and yes i am affraid of what they would do if they found my name....so please if you post this to your site...post it annonymously. thanks again.
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:26 AM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: I'm worried
I was forwarded a link to your site by a friend of mine (a fellow scad graduate) who has also experienced what he claims are unfair / unethical practices. I don't know the specifics of his situation so I have never made a judgment about his case. However I have been witness to a good deal of things that I consider questionable and I believe much more lurks beyond what I can see.
I'm glad you have put up this web site and I plan to explore it however one post I read struck a chord with me. Someone mentioned that scad should be put out of business.
If scad should suffer some giant public exposure / humiliation (which may be what is necessary, I honestly don't know) Do you know what affect that would have on the people who have degrees from scad? To be honest, I'm a recent graduate, and I haven’t tested to see if my diploma from scad means anything to anyone to begin with but if the school were to loose respect would it's students also be hurt? Has something like this scenario happened to other collages that you know about?
In the long run, the most important thing is that no one gets hurt by scad and if that means a big scandal then I'm all for one. And if THAT means that our diplomas are hurt then so be it. I don't mind if it helps out all the really good professors and students that I know at scad. I'm just wondering. Something to think about.
I applaud your building this site.
/////////////////////
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 11:21 AM
To: phoueix_master_scad@hotmail.com
Subject: SCAD-WEB-FEEDBACK
hey man, i think it's great what you're doing by posting this
information to warn people about the danger of getting involved
with this organization. i'm a bitter student that has been fairly
dissapointed with my experience here thus far. knowing what i
know now, i wouldn't have made the decision to come here. this
school is clothed in a veil bearing a likeness to that story of
the wolf dressed as loving and charming grandmother. it's like
you come here and the arrogant s.o.b.'s demand that you bend over
and take it like a man.
however, despite my hostility, i think this school has a lot of
potential and it's generally a good thing - aside from the corruption.
i mean, you're likely to find a certain level of that anywhere
but here in haunted savannah, this illusionary dream eventually
reveals itself as the bug light that many of the crazy ones are
attracted to.
i commend you on your integrity in voicing your experience and
hope that others will follow your lead. in this day and age, with
the convergence of different media, it has become easier and easier
to send the truth into millions of homes across the globe. as
i'm sure you know, like many before you, a lawsuit is just a standard
procedure with these guys and i wish you luck in your dealings
with them. and i will keep all of this information in mind as
i move on to go on to collect my reciept, a.k.a. - in other institutions
as a "diploma."
cheers,
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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:20 PM
To: freedomofspeech@scad.info
Subject: www.scad.info
Monsieur Houeix:
Thank you for your effort to collect and share honest experiences about SCAD. I have only today heard of your complaints through the e-mail system. At this time I just wish to give you my support as an MFA graduate, proud of my degree, but with uneasy feelings about the school's administration. I'm sure that myself and others I know will begin to elaborate and have something to contribute to your website when the time is right.
Regards,
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:01:32 EST
To: <houeix@gateway.net>
Subject: scad-web-feedback
i am a former scad student. i want to wish you luck. you seem
to be well armed with documentation and you will need it.
a few years ago a literary magazine called "LinguaFranca"
did an article on scad documenting their fight with the School
of Visual Arts that was competing with Scad. the school of visual
arts eventually lost because the Rowans use their money to push
people around and most people do not have the resources to fight
them. not only do i believe that they were attempting to take
advantage of the unique position you were in due to language barriers
and visa status i believe they rely on that tactic with regards
to foreign students as well.
i'm sure you have noted in the list of faculty how many professors
have B.f.a and m.f.a degrees from the savannah college of art
and design. how many of those are imaginary degrees we don't know.
the article should let you know what you are dealing with. i hope
that get through this unscathed both professionally and personally.
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